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Default Petrol sounds like a diesel on cold start ? - 1st March 2015, 10:01 AM

Only had my Clubby since January, 13k on the clock, petrol, late 2010 (2nd Gen). Noticed when I start from cold it sounds a bit rough, rattley, in fact it sounds pretty much like a diesel engine until its warmed up a bit.
Is this normal ?, this wouldn't be the start of the dreaded chain tensioner problem would it, the famous 'death rattle' ?


  
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Default 1st March 2015, 10:05 AM

Yes by what you are saying it sounds like the chain tensioner to me give your dealer a ring and get her booked in !!


  
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Default 1st March 2015, 10:27 AM

Yikes, scary, ok will ring them on Monday thanks Paul


  
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Default 1st March 2015, 10:49 AM

Should be no problem all dealers know about the problem just a case of booking her in and getting sorted


  
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Default 1st March 2015, 10:58 AM

I was told she was all up to date with recalls etc when I bought her


  
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Default 1st March 2015, 11:49 AM

If it's a Cooper (or One) petrol with a non-turbo engine, then check your oil level. Before the oil even reaches the 'min' mark on the dipstick, you get a rattly engine on start-up - I think it is the timing chain tensioner not 'pumping up' for a while when the oil is low-ish.

If it's a Cooper S wth a turbo, then it could be impending failure of the timing chain tensioner, which is a different and potentially damaging condition.

But these are two completely different issues on the two different engines. On the non-turbo Cooper engines, it isn't serious - so don't panic, if that's what you have - just check the oil.
  
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Default 1st March 2015, 11:56 AM

Unfortunately I have the Cooper S Angib, the oil level is fine though, well from what I can see with that ridiculous dip stick !


  
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Default 1st March 2015, 01:05 PM

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It's not a recall, just basically a service item just like the walnut blasting to decoke the car
  
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Default 1st March 2015, 02:33 PM

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If it's a Cooper (or One) petrol with a non-turbo engine, then check your oil level. Before the oil even reaches the 'min' mark on the dipstick, you get a rattly engine on start-up - I think it is the timing chain tensioner not 'pumping up' for a while when the oil is low-ish.

If it's a Cooper S wth a turbo, then it could be impending failure of the timing chain tensioner, which is a different and potentially damaging condition.

But these are two completely different issues on the two different engines. On the non-turbo Cooper engines, it isn't serious - so don't panic, if that's what you have - just check the oil.
Sound advice - however IME the S turbo engines sound rattly when the oil level is getting a bit low too.

OP - the dipstick is indeed utter sh1te, but try looking at it before you start the engine in the mornings. It will read a bit low, but at least you dont drag a load of oil with it so you can read it.

If you have the stick with the two sort of cones on it, the distance between them is 1 litre of oil

Under absolutely no circumstance should you let it go so low that the oil light comes on (what many people do to judge when to fill up) as that too can already have trashed the engine.

Coupled with the fact that they can drink excessive amounts of oil, you should really check at least every 1000 miles - more if the car has a real drinking problem
  
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Default 1st March 2015, 04:16 PM

Thanks Ian, I might go check it in a bit as not driven it since Friday


  
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