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Default How good are the Mk1 mini's now. - 24th June 2018, 11:02 AM

As there knocking on 15 to 20 years old and appear to be good on the outside. The body seems very resilient.Im wondering if there are things under the skin that become a liability.

I know the fuel tank straps can corrode and I have read that the 5 speeds are weak. Nothing that drastic comes up in searches after that.

Its going to be for my daughter, she would like a mini and I only have around 1500 quid after lessons, test, insurance etc so can I get something worthwhile at the bottom of the market.

Before its said, I am no stranger to spanners and can call on my neighbour in times of major issues that cannot be done on the drive, (mechanic, very good one too), although he doesent think there is much to worry about so long as you check it over properly.

I have seen a few, the pricing makes no sense , people seem to make up a number. I do see people talking about facelift models cant see much of a change myself.

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Default 24th June 2018, 11:25 AM

I thought they were all 5 speeds, 6th speed box came in on 2nd gen 2007-2013

Your best going for one after July 2004 the facelift which had a better clutch and other minor revisions including "circle" rear lights and different front and back bumpers

I regularly look back on my old MINIs and can see my old 2004 mini one is still on the road


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Default 24th June 2018, 01:48 PM

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I thought they were all 5 speeds, 6th speed box came in on 2nd gen 2007-2013

Your best going for one after July 2004 the facelift which had a better clutch and other minor revisions including "circle" rear lights and different front and back bumpers

I regularly look back on my old MINIs and can see my old 2004 mini one is still on the road
our cooper s defiantly had 6 gears,was one of the last ones
  
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Default How good are the Mk1 mini's now. - 24th June 2018, 06:49 PM

There are 5 or 6 speed boxes on Gen1, the later models have the 6 speed and are a better box.

I have a Ď52 plate 5 speed, bought it last year cheap as it needed a gearbox rebuild which isnít unusual by all accounts.

Other than, I havenít come across any issues personally apart from water pump


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Default 24th June 2018, 06:57 PM

R50 Cooper and ONE models between 2001 and 2004 had the Midlands 5 speed gearbox which has a reputation of being fragile. These models then had a facelift in 2004 with slight body/interior changes and gained the Getrag gearbox, still a 5 speed but better reliability.
R53 Cooper S had a 6 speed Getrag from the beginning in 2002.


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Default 24th June 2018, 09:51 PM

Thanks for clearing that up!


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Default 24th June 2018, 11:00 PM

In my experience there are a few corrosion areas to look at

#1 Lift the door and boot seals and check for corrosion the seal if of poor design and tends to trap water and cause the seam underneath to corrode.

#2 Front and rear subframes can also corrode

#3 rear trailing arm brackets corrode

#4 the Sills under the plastic protectors can corrode.

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Regarding Gearboxes

The One and Cooper up to late july 2004 had the Rover R65 or "midlands" gearbox this quickly got a reputation for unreliability
The Input and Output shaft bearing are the most common failure point.
Another common problem is complete differential failure!

The 5 speed BMW Mini Getrag Gearbox (2004 onwards) commonly suffer with pinion wear on the mainshaft , the bolts that secure the diff carrier on to the crown wheel can work loose creating an audible knock at first, left too long it will prove fatal in terms of the damage it causes. You may also hear a high pitch whine / drone in 1st gear & some times 2nd gear due to the design of gearbox, ( this can be normal ) due to the reverse idler being permanently engaged with the laygear / first motion shaft , although in some cases the bush within the reverse idler can wear out allowing the idler to wobble on the shaft with enhanced noise. #


The r53 and R56 Minis had the 6spd gertag which is pretty bombproof.


  
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Default 25th June 2018, 11:16 AM

You should post some examples of MINIs for sale you are interested in and the forum
can give you some feedback on each


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Default 25th June 2018, 10:40 PM

AROnline MINI 2001-2007 Buying Guide. Replacing the classic Mini should have been a tall order, but BMW managed the job in style in 2001 Ė and, as Keith Adams explains, they make a great secondhand purchase today:-
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Default 28th June 2018, 07:20 PM

I had a 51 plate cooper and the gearbox went bang. I got charged a core charge on my old gearbox because the shaft had smashed a hole through it. I heard they were the same boxes as they used in Rovers. Even the gearbox rebuilders said they were made of cheese.

I also had the timing chain smash the engine up because of a faulty oil fed chain tensioner. That was the worst 6 months of my life owning one.

I got it all fixed and sold it. Typically it never let the new owner in his ownership of it, some 3 years after. Probably because the mechanical side was perfect after the money I threw at it.

So much happier with the r56
  
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