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Default Black Smoke - EGR? - 12th August 2017, 09:58 AM

Hi, I (well my son) has a 2006 One Diesel 1.4 with the Toyota 1.4 unit, which, to be fair at almost 110k goes really well. I was following behind him recently and noticed under hard acceleration there was (a lot) of Black soot coming from the exhaust. I suspect, from other diesel cars I have owned, that this is most likely a blocked EGR valve which could do with a good clean? Any ideas on this and where the EGR is on this particular engine. Thanks.
  
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Default 12th August 2017, 08:27 PM

It could either be a blocked egr value or a blocked/faulty dpf. On the location of the valve, it's at the bottom right of the engine block as shown in the videos below.





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Default 13th August 2017, 10:19 AM

Thanks very much appreciated. I will start with the EGR, have a look and see how gunked up it is, then move onto the DPF if required as I understand that is a bit of a ballache? It is mostly motorway miles on the car so, fingers crossed, EGR most likely culprit?
  
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Default 13th August 2017, 12:03 PM

Hope it is the EGR which never throws up any error codes and it fails without any warning, we learnt this the hard way when our previous Countryman broke down with an EGR failure on the motorway with my wife behind the wheel. Not sure what brand of fuel you are using, for the past year we have been using Shell V-Power nitro+ in both our MINIs to keep the EGR clean, certainly working for us with much better performance and fuel consumption.


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Default 17th August 2017, 05:43 PM

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Hope it is the EGR which never throws up any error codes and it fails without any warning, we learnt this the hard way when our previous Countryman broke down with an EGR failure on the motorway with my wife behind the wheel. Not sure what brand of fuel you are using, for the past year we have been using Shell V-Power nitro+ in both our MINIs to keep the EGR clean, certainly working for us with much better performance and fuel consumption.
Its my son's car but he/we always use Shell, with the occasional V Power treat for it. I have got an X Type Jaguar (which has the Ford Mondeo Diesel engine) which, when I cleaned the EGR on that at 78k was almost blocked, absolutely horrific. I am expecting therefore this to be the same as he is on about 109k now, mostly motorway though. My wife has got a 2008 1.6 PSA Cooper D with 110k, so, if I can find that EGR, probably worth having a look at that one to? I use a bit of 2 Stroke oil in all my Diesels with a mix of 2-Ethyl-Hexyl Nitrate Cetane Booster, which certainly makes them quieter, smoother and more perky!
  
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Default 18th August 2017, 08:29 AM

After our EGR failure, I looked at adding additives but decided to go with the Shell option. It's good that you are doing it yourself, the dealers charge 500 on a replacement of the EGR and don't even look at cleaning it!!


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Default 25th August 2017, 05:07 PM

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After our EGR failure, I looked at adding additives but decided to go with the Shell option. It's good that you are doing it yourself, the dealers charge 500 on a replacement of the EGR and don't even look at cleaning it!!
I will have a go at most things to be honest....don't like timing belts though! Only a slightly different subject, for my son's 2006 model, it says the fuel filter is a 'lifetime' one, but I am sceptical. Have you any knowledge of these and whether they should be changed. If so, are they straight forward or not? Thanks again for the advice to date, appreciated.
  
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Default 26th August 2017, 08:38 AM

Hi, it is a lifetime part and there is a lot of information in the post below where some owners do replace them. Using the realoem website will show you the location and there is a link to this site also below.

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Default 26th August 2017, 04:43 PM

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Hi, it is a lifetime part and there is a lot of information in the post below where some owners do replace them. Using the realoem website will show you the location and there is a link to this site also below.

R56 Fuel Filter

Did you sort out the EGR valve?
Not had a chance to do it yet as my son has moved with his job even further away now! (Swansea/Gosport) I did go down last weekend though to move his stuff in and had a good look at the job which, now I know where it is will make life a lot easier the next time he comes home to Swansea. I will have a crack at it then and let you know how I get on. I may also have acrack at the fuelk filter as his car is coming up to 110K now and I am not sure if it has ever been changed. Thanks again for the information, much appreciated.
  
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Default 26th August 2017, 08:05 PM

On the fuel fileter replacement, I managed to dig out these videos based on the gen 1 and gen 2.

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