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MINI Icon Blue Permanent live for dashcam on 2008 Mini Clubman?> - 14th October 2016, 07:01 AM

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THE ANSWER IS THE ODB 5A FUSE for a perm live!!! See last post....
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I just had a dashcam fitted yesterday to a Mini Clubman 2008.

Ran into a problem where according to the chap (who is a specialist fitter), trying to get a clean 12V always on feed is nigh on impossible in BMWs and many modern cars.

He said that the car tends to put all ancillary circuits to sleep after a fairly short time (1-5 hours depending). In reality, the dashcam cuts out after about 30 minutes after parking up.
I do have a Power Magic Pro hardwire/battery protector set to 12V. I'd be surprised if the battery went down that quickly, but it *is* a possibility. But I'd thought I'd check out the general claims he made whilst getting ready to put a multimeter on it myself.

He also recommended against tapping to the battery as he said modern charging systems can throw the voltage very high (18V with higher spikes) instead of the fairly reliable 14.4V old cars used to be.

Is there a better place I could try tapping for power? He's done the hard work of routing the cables through the bodywork nicely - I don't mind fiddling a bit now under the dash.

Thanks - Tim

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Just checked the fusebox. Tappings seems to coming from Hazard fuse (5A) and Radio (20A). I know the radio cuts off as soon as the ignition is switched off. Hazard I *would* have thought would have been on permanently but clearly not.

There's one nearby marked with a padlock (one of two marked with a padlock) - what's that? Central locking? The nearest is 5A, the other is 20A. 20A sounds more like door lock actuators. 5A - control unit? Wonder if that's worth a try.

I should add - he's used piggyback fuse taps, so trying a different circuit is easy enough.

Do any '08 MINI systems go "wrong" if you pull the power?

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Default 14th October 2016, 07:11 AM

what a did with mine was just plugged it into the fig lighter so I had no problems
  
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Default 14th October 2016, 10:51 AM

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what a did with mine was just plugged it into the fig lighter so I had no problems
Mini fag lighter cuts off with the ignition (at least the front one does).
  
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Default 15th October 2016, 08:06 AM

I have the power magic in mine for my cam. I fed directly from the battery for a perm live feed as it was the easiest way. Ive had zero problems and its been in there for nearly 4 years now.

If i dont drive the car for a few days the power magic has usually cut the power feed as the battery has gotten low - so it does what its suppose to do, and the car still starts up.



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Default 15th October 2016, 11:01 AM

Nice to see a piccy of a Mini looking used.

Should we start a thread for "The best mucky Mini"?

  
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Default 16th October 2016, 07:53 AM

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I have the power magic in mine for my cam. I fed directly from the battery for a perm live feed as it was the easiest way. Ive had zero problems and its been in there for nearly 4 years now.

If i dont drive the car for a few days the power magic has usually cut the power feed as the battery has gotten low - so it does what its suppose to do, and the car still starts up.

Thanks - I guess the fitter was being uber-cautious.

I might make the mode myself now he's done all the hard work of routing.

Did you literally take the tapping off the battery terminal with an inline fuse, or is there somewhere else that's good to intercept like the under-bonnet fusebox?

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Default 16th October 2016, 07:58 AM

Yeah direct from the battery terminal with an inline fuse.
Pushed the wire through the rubber cover where the other feeds go through the bulk head behind the battery and then pulled it along, down the passenger foot well and behind the dash to the fuse box.



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Default 16th October 2016, 08:10 AM

Quick side question:

Does anything in the Mini (R55) get upset if you remove the batter connection (or fuses)?

I have noticed on this page:

R56 Fuses - North American Motoring

F26 (Siren) is a handy fuse that *ought* to stay live. Just want to be sure nothing bad will happen if I start pulling fuses (like older coded radios would lock out, that sort of thing)?

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Default 16th October 2016, 09:24 AM

If you have an aftermarket head unit something might happen to that but obvs i cant say for sure. Other than that, the radio will reset along with time date etc and will just need reset.



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Default 16th October 2016, 09:57 AM

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If you have an aftermarket head unit something might happen to that but obvs i cant say for sure. Other than that, the radio will reset along with time date etc and will just need reset.
Thanks Andy.

Time to get the multimeter on some other fuses, then consider the battery tap route which is not going to be hard.

The fitter did warn me that he was reticent to tap the battery as charging circuits were more aggressive on modern cars (much higher peak voltages on the batter like 18V), but as the Blackview is a 12-24V device (in Power Magic) I would be surprised if that managed to blow it up.
  
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