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TotalMINI F1 GGWC 2009
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ADVICE THREAD: 1st Generation Power Steering Pump Failures (R50, R52, R53)
Welcome MINI enthusiasts!
Presumably you're reading this post because your power steering isn't behaving in the way that a healthy car's should. Well, you've come to the right place, because we're going to see what we can do to help get you motoring once more and back to enjoying your MINI Adventure! ![]() What models are affected? First Generation MINIs - models: ONE (R50), Cooper (R50), Cabrio (R52), and Cooper S (R53). The ONE-D (also R50) may also be affected but I believe this model has a different power steering pump construction and is not interchangeable with any of the petrol R50s. I will readdress this point in a future update when I have more information. My power steering is intermittent or has failed completely. How do I know if it's the pump or not? Diagnostic checks are a bit useless... it's been discussed here that it doesn't really matter what's wrong with the pump, as it's basically: Power steering has failed (permanently or intermittently)... response: examine the pump.It'd be far better if it just went: Power steering has failed (permanently or intermittently)... response: replace the pump.Roughly how much should I be paying for diagnostic check and labour? Essentially, while they're replacing the pump, they should have a look to see if the wiring loom needs doing at the same time. There shouldn't really be a diagnostic charge for this one as it's such a common problem (see previous section)... but this is may come down to how good natured your dealership is, and how good a customer you've been in the past. If it's only the pump (and not the loom as well; that's much more expensive) that's gone, then hopefully you'll get by with a contribution of £40-110 (about £70ish seemed 'normal'), but remember, anything in that range is an excellent result (if you're just a bit above, it's still a good result). As time goes on, we'll see BMW asking for larger contributions as the cars that exhibit this problem will be ageing. Ultimately, and quite reasonably, the manufacturer will eventually want to move on from this issue and won't be offering assistance indefinitely. See subsequent sections in this guide for tips on approaching your dealer. Are BMW aware of this problem? Yes. BMW and their dealerships are very well aware of this problem, it is a very common one, and anything your dealer or the manufacturer claim to the contrary is simply not true. Simply look at the poll associated with this thread - perhaps even print that out to show your dealer. However, whether the VOSA can do anything about this issue is another thing entirely, as explained by mab01uk and MiniManiaUK: Indeed, even the UK Consumer programme Watchdog has tackled the Power Steering Pump Problem earlier this year. See this thread for details:
How to approach the dealership with the aim to getting financial assistance in fixing your power steering failure: If when the steering is very heavy, you notice an absence of the MINI's characteristic whine from the engine compartment, then it's quite probably that your Power Steering Pump has failed. This is a common problem on MINIs and an exhaustive number of owners have had this problem, and how they dealt with it will be detailed right here in this very thread! MINI UK won't help me, what can I do? (to be continued...) Last edited by NeuroBeaker; 1st April 2009 at 02:07 PM. |
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Continued from above...
MINI UK won't help me, what can I do? If there is absolutely no way you can get a claim processed through MINI UK then there are cheaper options for repair than using the main dealerships for parts and fitting. For example, here are a few places you can get replacement components: Is there anything I can do myself to stop the pump from failing again? (to be continued...) Last edited by NeuroBeaker; 1st April 2009 at 04:42 PM. |
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Continued from above...
Is there anything I can do myself to stop the pump from failing again? I'm glad you asked - yes there is! Unfortunately, the fix from BMW simply replaced the failed pump with an unit that is identical in design... meaning that it will inevitably fail in the future. Up to now, there are no after-market replacements that fix the problem but there is a maintenance regime you can follow.For a detailed description on how you can maintain your power steering pump to ensure longevity in your new pump, here are some fabulous instructions, again from Adam at MiniManiaUK (gathered into one post by me, but follow the links there to the originals, which include pictures):
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The inevitable Power Steering pump thread
So, on my second MINI and after nearly 7 years of MINI ownership I suffered the dreaded power steering pump issue.
As described on another forum, I suffered the fault where the pump stays running even with the engine switched off. The same fault that could potentially lead to the thing catching fire ![]() ![]() My MINI is a 54 registered Cooper S with 49k miles. A quick visit to Scotthall BMW in Southampton and a request sent by them to MINI UK has resulted in a very generous 100% parts and 50% labour. Leaving me with a bill around £60 (subject to the work being carried out next monday). A big thank you to Scotthall and MINI UK. And for those new users who are reading about this suffering the same issue. The advice I will give you is.. disconnect the battery earth terminal (there's a spanner in the toolkit next to the battery in the boot) and contact your local dealer. It is a very common problem so if they say they've never heard of it they're probably trying to pull a fast one In this case try another dealer.Good luck everyone, I'll post more after Monday
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Continued from above...
(to be continued...) Last edited by NeuroBeaker; 1st April 2009 at 12:31 PM. |
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Continued from above...
Concluding advice: The single most important thing I can advise is dropping off a thoughtful letter with your car. It should politely but firmly plead your case and provide ample opportunity for your dealer to shine - remember the tone is that they're there to 'save' you and restore the joy in your MINI ownership experience, not take a 'flaming' from you. ![]() As aforementioned, for a more technical explanation as to what's going on with the precise components in question, you may want to have a thread through the thread and take special note of contributions from mab01uk and MINIMANIAUK. ![]() Good luck and keep us updated to your progress in the Power Steering Pump Thread (right here: 24 hours a day, 365 days a year)! ![]() All the best, Andrew. PS: I apologise for not being able to include it into one starting post, I found that there were limits of 10,000 characters per post and I'd exceeded them by quite a large margin. Could everyone please let me know if you find any problems with this advice? e.g. Broken links, nonsensical quotes, poor spelling/grammar, or bad information... it will all be corrected as quickly as possible. Thanks! Last edited by NeuroBeaker; 1st April 2009 at 04:44 PM. |
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Thanks for the heads up. My '06 S is coming up to 30k and having had the thermostat housing go a couple of months back I'm now waiting for the steering pump to go
Just out of interest - when MINI fix this problem is the fix a permanent one ie has there been a change in spec to sort the original problem or is it a case of it will happen again in an undetermined amount of time?
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Great topic and performance
---- as an international member from Istanbul, I can say that; I've had this pump problem seriously on my 2004/10 mcs without warranty and approx.45000km. My local dealer is very hard to solve the problem so I got my mcs to the another pump fixer. The result: no new pump, but fixed and working pump now, for USD200$. pros: fixing price; that authorized service dealer wanted ~1000EUR. cons: more irritating electrical pump sound. like VZZZZ..VZZZz.: ![]() ![]() thnx. |
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Well done with this BRILLIANT! So much better than wading through loads of advice Well Done
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